Many thanks to both Linda and Lucy for their Presentation at our January Post-Diagnostic Support Group meeting.
The topic was “When Autism and ADHD ‘Collide’, and was a very thought provoking talk around the differences between them, and where they overlap, for individuals who have been diagnosed with both.For those of you unable to attend our January PDSG, the recording is available below.
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Timestamps
00:00 Introduction
00:43 1st Slide “When Autism and ADHD Colide”
02:30 2nd Slide “Overview”
04:18 3rd Slide “The Challenge”
04:50 4th Slide “The Partnership Model”
05:37 5th Slide “The First Conflict”
08:09 6th Slide “The Research Challenge”
08:37 7th Slide “Research Limitations”
10:14 8th Slide “Attention Control”
10:41 9th Slide “Transdiagnostic Links”
12:40 10th Slide “Evidence of Transdiagnostic Links”
17:41 11th Slide “Attention Control Difficulties Could Underlie…”
20:36 12th Slide “Hyperactivity and Impulsivity”
22:09 13th Slide “The Possible Impact of Medication”
28:13 14th Slide “The Systemic Challenge”
29:30 15th Slide “Is this about to change?”
32:14 16th Slide “The Social Media Challenge”
45:25 17th Slide “Most Importantly”
45:39 18th Slide “Conflict Within the Individual”
47:29 19th Slide – Quotes
47:54 20th Slide – Quotes
49:12 21st Slide – Quotes
51:04 22nd Slide “The Psychological Impact”
51:19 23rd Slide “The Transition Curve”
51:50 24th Slide “Other Neurodivergence”
54:56 25th Slide “Dilemmas for Diagnosticians”
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There is more than enough here for the aspiring self-expert to come to some useful conclusions. For instance, on the strength of this presentation, I would continue to think that although there is some evidence of ADHD of the so-called Inattentive variety, that it would never be significant enough to warrant the extra effort of looking for yet another diagnosis. (And probably much the same could be said about dyspraxia.) And diagnosticians for all three conditions are probably better off not being overloaded by a borderline individual. But no problem really, because I am now better-equipped to take action or inaction according to my now updated self-expertise from this presentation. For further instance, and from previous experience, I am very glad that I will never have to resort to medication; although I believe that I have long known that day-to-day stimulants are a good form of self-regulation for me. Thanks a lot to you all at Axia for yet another personally useful PDSG. Glad to hear lots of comments and feedback.
Thank you
As you know we believe people are experts on themselves
I really enjoyed how interactive it was
I learnt a lot
Hi There, I’m afraid we couldn’t make this particular meeting. I’ve listened once to the content and know I need to listen again. My question or reflection would be what’s the difference between autistic executive function or misfunction (!) and similar behaviours shown in ADHD. Thanks Rita
Executive function issues is there in all neurodivergence
It tends to be the same in as much as it affects
Planning
Organisation
Listen again and see if this makes more sense
https://www.aol.co.uk/news/noise-cancelling-headphones-may-linked-185823663.html
Noise-cancelling headphones are fuelling a rise in neurological disorders among Gen Z, experts fear.
I think this brief report might be of interest to quite a few AXIAites. I have never used noise-cancelling headphones and have no great interest in gaming environments. Indeed, for a person who has a long-term interest in music and sound systems, I really don’t like wearing headphones very much at all. But the idea that some inner ear problems or other neurological damage might have occurred in Childhood seems very appropriate to my own experience. Poor balance has always been an issue for me, and I seem to have an increasing degree of listening problems in the fairly noisy environment in which I now live. I have often thought of this as an ‘autistic’ listening problem in recent years, but perhaps that is only one part of the issue. And perhaps it is about time I started investigating low-gain hearing aids. This problem is not going away in old age, although it remains at much the same level as when I had auditory tests about 30 years ago, when I was told that I might have to wait a few more years before any intervention became practical.These days, if anyone even asks, I am inclined to say I have auditory problems that are perhaps connected to neurodiversity, but alas, most such questioners are probably not listening and might even want to ‘tune out’ when I make such statements. 😉 Perhaps yet another self-prescription is now called for. I really do believe in the notion of self-expertise, and in quite a large number of ways have found that it works well for me.
This might actually be a better link than the one I previously shared, because BBC links tend to be a bit longer-lasting.
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cgkjvr7x5x6o
Thanks for this – interesting article, though a lot more research needed. Quite a telling quote from it, I felt, being “There are a lot of well-meaning parents and teachers who think the answer to children having problems with noise is to wear ear plugs or having noise-cancelling headphones on.” The ever loaded “well-meaning” turn of phrase!